Wolfy Nostalgia Post of the Week
A classic never dies. My next selection comes from a poster whose blog inspired some of the greatest poker one liners (In fact, this post starts with one of my favorites.) and some of the world's greatest comments. At this date, it would seem he is temporarily retired from blogging but his name will live on forever... Lazypoo!!
(From May of 2006)
Big Stack Little Stack
You hear about stack sizes on Tv, from your friend, your family, and they are in your worst nightmares. What does stack size have anything to do with poker? Well in tournament games you can play so many more hands because you are risking a smaller percent of your stack compared to a short stack who is risking about 10% of his chips to see a flop; most of the time. Another thing you hear about being the "big stack" is that they bully people around. Because they are good? Probably, but thats not the reason. The reason is to put you all in and if you lose a 50 50 you're out of the tournament and you get no pay or a lot less than if you just waited. So big stacks are in essence the big dick at tables.
In cash games... from commen sense you can probably calculate the odds of someone having 6x the buyin from being a passive agressive or loose player. I think 90% of the time they are going to be loose in some sense if not all. I was playing against a person today and got into two big hands with him and one medium sized one.The first hand: I saw that he was a big stack and that he had bluffed before so I decided to slowplay. I think I might slowplay a little too much but I can get off of my hands a little bit easier than most people. Anyway so here is how it went down.
Seat 3: ForkaDork ( $1146.78 )
Seat 9: SDeeSU ( $344.79 )
Dealt to SDeeSU [ Ks As ]
Work4Fish420 folds.
maya0 folds.mantler folds.
SDeeSU raises [$7].
GrannyJean50 folds.
MilkLeg folds.
Flyboy94 folds.
ForkaDork calls [$7].
andyg9 folds.
lil_bo_poop folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7h, Kd, 4c ]
SDeeSU bets [$8].
ForkaDork raises [$16].
SDeeSU calls [$8].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4d ]
SDeeSU checks.
ForkaDork bets [$35].
SDeeSU calls [$35].
** Dealing River ** [ 5c ]
SDeeSU checks.
ForkaDork bets [$149.37].
SDeeSU: looks like u hit a 4
SDeeSU calls [$149.37].
ForkaDork shows [ Th, Ad ] a pair of fours.
SDeeSU shows [ Ks, As ] two pairs, kings and fours.
SDeeSU wins $414.74 from the main pot with two pairs, kings and fours.
I decided to slowplay this hand because he reraised on the flop. This is a standard move to scare your oppenent into thinking you hit. With a king up there I could be holding anything from 88 to qq to AQ or AJ suited. I thought about it and I knew he didn't have shit so I was just going to call this hand down. On the river though, it got me thinking but the only thing he could really have had was a set. So I called and won 200 on something I would usually get paid nothing or lose a lot on.
The second hand: I had top pair and wasn't betting too high then came a 1 card for a st8 and he bet pot on the river so I folded. He showed the 2 4 for the bluff. Ass :)The third hand: This hand was extreamly tough on me. With 500 at stake against a large stack isn't the kind of position that you want to be in especially with nothing. Here is how it went down.
#Game No : 4291565522
Seat 3: ForkaDork ( $1276.47 )
Seat 9: SDeeSU ( $525.66 )
Dealt to SDeeSU [ Qc Jc ]
maya0 folds.
azukar folds.
SDeeSU raises [$7].
MasterLee32 folds.
MilkLeg folds.
DivisnByZero folds.
ForkaDork calls [$7].
andyg9 folds.
PapioPapio folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Tc, 8d, 5s ]
SDeeSU checks.
ForkaDork bets [$15].
SDeeSU raises [$30].
ForkaDork raises [$50.75].
SDeeSU calls [$35.75].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Js ]
SDeeSU checks.
ForkaDork bets [$796.36].
SDeeSU is all-In [$452.91]
** Dealing River ** [ 5c ]
ForkaDork shows [ Ks, 7d ] a pair of fives.
SDeeSU shows [ Qc, Jc ] two pairs, jacks and fives.
ForkaDork wins $343.45 from side pot #1 with a pair of fives.
SDeeSU wins $1051.32 from the main pot with two pairs, jacks and fives.
I mean right there it seems like a good play by me but there was no way that I knew that he was THAT dumb. Haha. I assumed he wanted a fold after rrr then going all in so.. I guess a pro would have made this call easier because I really couldn't put him on QQ KK or AA. So basically the only hands he could have done that with was with two pair. Could have gone either way I think, oh well what do i care I'm 500 dollars richer :).
Today: +500 Year to date: 6000
I made and lost money other than this... lost with trip 2s to trip jacks. Damn set over sets.. but I do that to people too. :)
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The first post featured in Wolfy's Nostalgia Post of the Week did not receive any comments back in the day - shocking, I know. But all Nostalgia posts will also feature any comments made at the time of the post. There were two for this one.
Julian Silvain said...
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response was there anything that could even be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
TheGraveWolf said...
Haha, damn dude...you stuck a fork in ForkaDork...that guy got owned. Also, very interesting commentary on big stacks in tournies - I think you make some good points about how they have big dicks.Anyway, don't forget to keep slowplaying against those aggro guys eh eh?
(From May of 2006)
Big Stack Little Stack
You hear about stack sizes on Tv, from your friend, your family, and they are in your worst nightmares. What does stack size have anything to do with poker? Well in tournament games you can play so many more hands because you are risking a smaller percent of your stack compared to a short stack who is risking about 10% of his chips to see a flop; most of the time. Another thing you hear about being the "big stack" is that they bully people around. Because they are good? Probably, but thats not the reason. The reason is to put you all in and if you lose a 50 50 you're out of the tournament and you get no pay or a lot less than if you just waited. So big stacks are in essence the big dick at tables.
In cash games... from commen sense you can probably calculate the odds of someone having 6x the buyin from being a passive agressive or loose player. I think 90% of the time they are going to be loose in some sense if not all. I was playing against a person today and got into two big hands with him and one medium sized one.The first hand: I saw that he was a big stack and that he had bluffed before so I decided to slowplay. I think I might slowplay a little too much but I can get off of my hands a little bit easier than most people. Anyway so here is how it went down.
Seat 3: ForkaDork ( $1146.78 )
Seat 9: SDeeSU ( $344.79 )
Dealt to SDeeSU [ Ks As ]
Work4Fish420 folds.
maya0 folds.mantler folds.
SDeeSU raises [$7].
GrannyJean50 folds.
MilkLeg folds.
Flyboy94 folds.
ForkaDork calls [$7].
andyg9 folds.
lil_bo_poop folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7h, Kd, 4c ]
SDeeSU bets [$8].
ForkaDork raises [$16].
SDeeSU calls [$8].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4d ]
SDeeSU checks.
ForkaDork bets [$35].
SDeeSU calls [$35].
** Dealing River ** [ 5c ]
SDeeSU checks.
ForkaDork bets [$149.37].
SDeeSU: looks like u hit a 4
SDeeSU calls [$149.37].
ForkaDork shows [ Th, Ad ] a pair of fours.
SDeeSU shows [ Ks, As ] two pairs, kings and fours.
SDeeSU wins $414.74 from the main pot with two pairs, kings and fours.
I decided to slowplay this hand because he reraised on the flop. This is a standard move to scare your oppenent into thinking you hit. With a king up there I could be holding anything from 88 to qq to AQ or AJ suited. I thought about it and I knew he didn't have shit so I was just going to call this hand down. On the river though, it got me thinking but the only thing he could really have had was a set. So I called and won 200 on something I would usually get paid nothing or lose a lot on.
The second hand: I had top pair and wasn't betting too high then came a 1 card for a st8 and he bet pot on the river so I folded. He showed the 2 4 for the bluff. Ass :)The third hand: This hand was extreamly tough on me. With 500 at stake against a large stack isn't the kind of position that you want to be in especially with nothing. Here is how it went down.
#Game No : 4291565522
Seat 3: ForkaDork ( $1276.47 )
Seat 9: SDeeSU ( $525.66 )
Dealt to SDeeSU [ Qc Jc ]
maya0 folds.
azukar folds.
SDeeSU raises [$7].
MasterLee32 folds.
MilkLeg folds.
DivisnByZero folds.
ForkaDork calls [$7].
andyg9 folds.
PapioPapio folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Tc, 8d, 5s ]
SDeeSU checks.
ForkaDork bets [$15].
SDeeSU raises [$30].
ForkaDork raises [$50.75].
SDeeSU calls [$35.75].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Js ]
SDeeSU checks.
ForkaDork bets [$796.36].
SDeeSU is all-In [$452.91]
** Dealing River ** [ 5c ]
ForkaDork shows [ Ks, 7d ] a pair of fives.
SDeeSU shows [ Qc, Jc ] two pairs, jacks and fives.
ForkaDork wins $343.45 from side pot #1 with a pair of fives.
SDeeSU wins $1051.32 from the main pot with two pairs, jacks and fives.
I mean right there it seems like a good play by me but there was no way that I knew that he was THAT dumb. Haha. I assumed he wanted a fold after rrr then going all in so.. I guess a pro would have made this call easier because I really couldn't put him on QQ KK or AA. So basically the only hands he could have done that with was with two pair. Could have gone either way I think, oh well what do i care I'm 500 dollars richer :).
Today: +500 Year to date: 6000
I made and lost money other than this... lost with trip 2s to trip jacks. Damn set over sets.. but I do that to people too. :)
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The first post featured in Wolfy's Nostalgia Post of the Week did not receive any comments back in the day - shocking, I know. But all Nostalgia posts will also feature any comments made at the time of the post. There were two for this one.
Julian Silvain said...
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response was there anything that could even be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
TheGraveWolf said...
Haha, damn dude...you stuck a fork in ForkaDork...that guy got owned. Also, very interesting commentary on big stacks in tournies - I think you make some good points about how they have big dicks.Anyway, don't forget to keep slowplaying against those aggro guys eh eh?
posted by TheGraveWolf at 10:42 AM
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I just want to reiterate what Julian S. said earlier. I do feel dumber now.
I doubt if this WNPW will ever be topped (bottomed?). I am fighting back tears.
What a classic.
Basically, I am happy to see a new post...yay :) But I am sad that it is not as funny or entertaining as the first post. I don't have much patience for this old crap. I barely have patience for the new crap. :)
Haha, sorry to hear that Ms. Frag. I think a majority of my readership feels just the opposite. ;)
Lol... so long ago. Well I would post more but I really hate posting when I'm losing. Also, I hate dishing out advice when, I'm feeling lost on my own. I've been playing and thinking about poker every day of every hour for the last year. When I finally arrive at my answer... I'll start posting it back up. Until then...
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